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Apologies in advance as I'm relatively tech illiterate, so may be a dumb question - I'll be headed to business school this fall, and I am currently without a laptop (had a Macbook Pro 13' from college but has since died). The question is, what do people recommend?
I do like the Macbook Air as it's super light and relatively small, and I can see that having the most value to me post-MBA as the Apple interface is great. However, I also expect to be using / PPT extensively for school (incl. Extensive ), and obviously shortcuts and things like that are challenging with an Apple product.
I understand you can partition the hard-drive (if that's even the correct term?) and that may help, as would having a standard PC keyboard that you can plug in. Or would I better off buying a decent PC laptop? Fundamentally, the main issue is ability to model / use Office products on Mac. Anyone with some tech savvy or experience using a Mac to build out models care to opine? Appreciate it! BusinessGreek: Apologies in advance as I'm relatively tech illiterate, so may be a dumb question - I'll be headed to business school this fall, and I am currently without a laptop (had a Macbook Pro 13' from college but has since died). The question is, what do people recommend?
I do like the Macbook Air as it's super light and relatively small, and I can see that having the most value to me post-MBA as the Apple interface is great. However, I also expect to be using / PPT extensively for school (incl. Extensive ), and obviously shortcuts and things like that are challenging with an Apple product. I understand you can partition the hard-drive (if that's even the correct term?) and that may help, as would having a standard PC keyboard that you can plug in.
Or would I better off buying a decent PC laptop? Fundamentally, the main issue is ability to model / use Office products on Mac. Anyone with some tech savvy or experience using a Mac to build out models care to opine?
Appreciate it! Until the past few years or so, it was PC all the way in b-school (disclaimer: I'm a Mac guy). However, that is changing. It comes down to what you anticipate your major or courseload to be. If you're planning on taking a ton of finance electives (or more quantitative, -heavy electives) - then go with a PC.
Is okay for the Mac and it won't affect your productivity in most b-school classes where you'll be putting together basic spreadsheets, but again if you're taking some modeling intensive classes, you'll find that for PC to be easier to work with. If you see yourself taking more marketing, strategy, org behavior, etc. Electives, then it won't really make much difference between a Mac and PC. These tend to be more case method based, or group projects where most of the work will be presentational (reports, charts, powerpoint decks, rudimentary spreadsheet work, etc). If you are unsure, or you are indifferent between a Mac and PC, then go with a PC for b-school. Mind you, for those out there who already have a Mac and you don't want to buy another computer for school, you can simply run Parallels (software costs around $70 or so) which allows you to run Windows on your Mac (I've done that, and it works fine).
It basically turns your Mac into a dual-boot system, and.all. your Windows files are stored in just one folder on your Mac. Especially if you're in b-school, software like Parallels, Windows 7 (unless if you.really. want 8), and MS-Office suites are offered to you at an educational (discounted) price. In your case, I would probably suggest the cheapest PC build you can get away with just for b-school, and then once you graduate, you can switch back to Macs if you wish. In b-school, the most CPU intensive things are big spreadsheets and macros, so you won't notice a big difference in performance between the lowest end CPU vs.the fastest. With PCs, where it gets expensive is building out a system for gaming or media (sound/video production).
For the purposes of everyday computing (b-school academics included), just get the most RAM you can afford, whether you go Mac or PC - because it's your RAM that will likely impact performance more than CPU or GPU with everyday tasks. Hey there - realize I'm quite late on this post - but could you please elaborate on using Parallels, and how it worked for you?
Someone below said it was quite difficult for his spouse. 1) Did you use the same excel and modeling shortcuts on the Mac keyboard that you would for a PC, since you ran parallels? 2) Did you find the difference in keyboard to be an issue? I have a new Mac but will begin the B school experience soon. Plan on doing heavy modeling. If running Parallels on Mac don't solve the problem, thinking it could be worth it to buy a second laptop. BGP2587: My wife is finishing b-school this May and has had a Mac the whole time.
She has regretted it from Day 1, even though she has taken very few finance courses and hasn't had to do much in. Beyond the huge inferiority of, I think the PowerPoint functionality is at best different, and likely worse. Plus, Parallels, for whatever reason, barely works on her computer (Windows runs incredibly slowly).
I will be using a PC at school this fall, although I also have no choice. Genuinely curious about how having a spouse in B School works. Does she go to B School in the same city you work? I remember you will be going to B School soon, so will you again be in the same city?
You should do a post on this. Hey there - a bit late on this post but your comment on Macs/parallels stood out. Could you please elaborate on why parallels didn't work well for your wife? Did it allow her to use the same shortcuts as PC, or no? What was the issue when you say 'barely works'? Just an issue of processing same, or was she not able to adopt some PC functionalities. Would be useful to know as I am considering purchasing a PC though unfortunately bought a Mac a while back before thinking this through.
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Thanks in advance. SECfinance: I have Boot Camp on my Mac for the sole purpose of using. For Mac is the Jon Snow of the Office family. If you don't like having to restart your computer just to open excel in windows you should try a virtualization software like VMware Fusion parallels.
It allows you to run windows in a separate application letting you switch between PC and Mac operating systems effortlessly. I did this with my mac and ran software for PC through the virtualizer. Meh, I've run Parallels and the like before to try it out. Too slow for me. Can't stand the lag. Nice to hear it works well for you though.
SECfinance: I have Boot Camp on my Mac for the sole purpose of using. For Mac is the Jon Snow of the Office family. If you don't like having to restart your computer just to open excel in windows you should try a virtualization software like VMware Fusion parallels. It allows you to run windows in a separate application letting you switch between PC and Mac operating systems effortlessly.
I did this with my mac and ran software for PC through the virtualizer. Meh, I've run Parallels and the like before to try it out.
Too slow for me. Can't stand the lag. Nice to hear it works well for you though. Try allocating more memory to the virtual PC. I run Windows 7 parallel to OSX and have no lag problems with excel/ms office w/ memory split 50/50 between the two machines. Or maybe you just need more memory.
I work with a mac at home and a pc at work, and although i am still running excel on Windows, the shortcut keys, i.e. Ctrl, alt, etc are different. Get a pc unless you plan to have a career in web/graphic design. SECfinance: I have Boot Camp on my Mac for the sole purpose of using. For Mac is the Jon Snow of the Office family. Why pay a 100% premium for the Apple hardware + $500 for the Windows OS + another couple hundred for Office just so you can use a computer that looks cool? Build a desktop, pirate Windows 7 Ultimate, pirate Office 2010 pro, save a couple grand.
Or, just buy a PC laptop and still save over a grand. I don't only use Windows. I prefer the OS X interface, but need to use for classwork. I was saying the only reason I have Boot Camp is to use, for Mac sucks that badly. Was able to get Windows and Office for dirt cheap at my school.
Works for me. SECfinance: I have Boot Camp on my Mac for the sole purpose of using. For Mac is the Jon Snow of the Office family. Why pay a 100% premium for the Apple hardware + $500 for the Windows OS + another couple hundred for Office just so you can use a computer that looks cool? Build a desktop, pirate Windows 7 Ultimate, pirate Office 2010 pro, save a couple grand. Or, just buy a PC laptop and still save over a grand.
So, why is it that you are paying for the Software in scenario 1 and pirating it in scenario 2? Regardless, the days when hardware mattered are gone for 99% of users. I use my computers for xls, ppt, web, email. Occasionally a big model or FDS refresh will slow down my work computer, but I can usually solve that by sending to India and having them slog through it. The most intensive thing my computer usually does is stream last.fm. @krypton Will definitely answer, although I don't think it's interesting enough to be a post.
For background, we got engaged right before my wife started b-school, and married between her first and second year. We do live in the same city, so I can't speak to what it's like to do a long distance relationship or anything like that, and we will be moving to the same 'city' (Hanover, NH) for my time in school. I feel like having a spouse in b-school is sort of like any other relationship where both partners have busy, demanding, and often different schedules. I don't think b-school is any different to any other busy job.
Honestly, I haven't thought of it as a very big deal as the partner, but am definitely thinking about it more now that I will be the student. On that note, the one in school will be really busy, especially first year. The demands are a bit different from a standard job, but if you basically assume a 12-14 hour day at work for your wife, then it's not all that weird. We did not have to move for her school, so that made it easy. We both already worked in the city we live in, and when she chose to go to school here, that definitely removed a tough for what was a non-married or engaged relationship.
I would have moved with her, but that definitely would have been much different (I may not have had friends there, possibly a different job, etc.). I also am a consultant, and travel 50% of the time, so that's another factor that makes it a bit easier (or harder, depending on how you look at it).
I will say that it definitely added to my schedule. There are a ton of school events/happy hours/other things that I didn't go to all of, but definitely went to some of when I could.
It also meant some tutoring, since I was a business/accounting major undergrad. I probably spent a few hours a week going through accounting, a bit of finance, and general PowerPoint/ features with her, not to mention reviewing projects/papers and such.
I tend to enjoy doing that sort of thing (I guess that's why I enjoy posting on here), so I doubt all couples are like that, but was something that made me much more busy. I always planned to go to b-school, and actually delayed applying for a year so that she would be done when I went (another ).
For my school choice, it was basically a two-person decision. As you may have read, I picked Tuck over two city schools, which means very different career options and experiences for her.
While it was ultimately my decision, and not one that I would put on her, I certainly made it clear before both applying and signing on the dotted line that she could veto. She did not, and in the end, I think is the more excited about this move than she would have been for New York or Boston. I've written elsewhere about the merits of Tuck for a married student, so I won't go too much into that, but I actually found it to be the best fit for my situation. In the end, I don't really see business school as all that much different from any couple where both parties have careers and are career oriented. Throughout life, you and your spouse will likely be faced with decisions, from new jobs to more hours/travel to moves to pay raises to not working. Everyone picks and chooses what works best for them and their spouse based on what they value.
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I certainly do emphasize making it as much of a joint process as possible if you're the one applying and going, while also being sure to own it in the end. PM me for more details, as I don't want to hijack this thread too much. Didn't want to get too specific on here, and also didn't want to run on anymore than I already have.
I use both a 5-year-old Apple MacBook Pro and a brand new Windows 10 laptop. After several months of using them simultaneously, here's my take. If I need to do 'intense' Office work, I will only do that on the Windows machine. The range of MS Office-for-Windows ribbon commands is much more vast, the MS Office Windows keyboard shortcuts are essential to save time, and Wall Street grade plugins are only available for the Windows version. Bottom line, if your work is Wall Street-facing, a Windows machine is the way to go.
But, that said. My Windows laptop's keyboard is ergonomically blah. Worse, the Windows 10 operating system's UI feels like a compromise-OS-by-committee, an outdated and unfinished mashup of a desktop OS and a mobile OS. I was expecting far better from Windows. So now the only thing I use the PC for, is to run heavyweight Microsoft Office tasks. OneDrive is a Microsoft cloud space where you may end up being required to store work documents. Surprisingly, even though Microsoft developed OneDrive, the OneDrive software interface on a Windows machine is ridiculously bad.
Yet Apple's OneDrive interface is light years better. Makes no sense. Any other task or activity, I swivel my office chair and happily work on my Mac at the other side of my desk. The day-to-day ergonomics of using the Apple laptop are 1000% better. The Apple software ecosystem is far better integrated. And when I need to run a simple task in MS Office, such as a basic internal-use-only spreadsheet or a simple Word letter, more and more I tend do those on the Apple machine. Even though I can't access the Windows MS Office power-user keyboard shortcuts, it's ergonomically way more comfortable on the Apple machine.
Definitely use a PC. My big mistake was to get a Mac after being a long time PC user and have regretted that purchase ever since. I have Office 2011 for Mac, which has the version of with VBA. That's probably the only thing that saves that version.
Moreover, when you format a spreadsheet in Mac, the formatting doesn't hold when someone opens the same file in PC. That can get embarrassing, as people would think you don't know how to perform basic formatting. PC with VBA is substantially more powerful. I use VMWare to access Windows.
Some keyboard shortcuts do not work or have to be accessed with slight modifications. Kassad: We should seriously find a way to limit the number of 'what computer should I get' threads. That said, get a Mac if you want a computer you won't have to worry about. Put Windows on it and you've got the best of both. Don't listen to this. As a VC analyst you're going to be cranking in excel 24/7. Def don't want to be trying to figure out mac short cuts.
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The only people who will tell you to go the apple route are total company fanboys. This is so unbaised I almost believe it Edit: upon second read I have to admit that I didn't read the original question fully. Perhaps I am a fanboy lol. I am leaving my job soon and taking almost a month off work. I have been using my business laptop as a personal so its time to invest in one for myself. I run a lot of excel for personal use as well.
I have models for sports gambling and for investing. They need good processing in excel, so I am really hesitant on making that mac purchase. If my new job gives me a laptop, I would like to have separate computers for business and personal (it became very annoying mixing files and the extra security my business laptop has).